PHP Portals... will it....

[Razgo]

because of the last post I made about postnukeXyabbse was lost due to the recent backup i will repost.

Originally my friend dllsrc and I were going to work on a project involving the postnuke and YaBBSE intergration. dllsrc has since been kept busy with a lot of work so  I do not know if he will pick it up again when he gets more time. so the project we were working on is certainly in the "dead zone" for now anyway.

[Larry_Laffer]

I was PHPNuke with Version 5.1 and 5.2, I switched over to PostNuke with the Mutant and Rogue Release and now I am back with PHPNuke 5.4 and finally 5.5
I think many things must happen that I will go back the way to PostNuke.

I can understand the devs point of view because Francesco is not the easiest person to work with. But the chaos PN is producing is unbeatable. Too many cooks ...
There is no clear line. There are developing because of developing and not for the users.
The majority ist PHPNuke, at least 80% against 20% and it does not seem to change anymore. PHPNuke is now again gaining advantage with the 5.4&5.5 Versions.

[Shoeb Omar]

lol, i installed xoops an dhave to say its pretty sweet!

[Cebol]

I have just installed phpnuke on my web-site, well, I really want to "integrate" phpnuke and YaBB SE, well, they are in a diferente account form the same server, well it worked for me, I just created a "stupi*" php file in the modules/Forum with.... ( you have to put the name "index.php" and don´t need any files.... )

include_once ("my index.php file of the forum....It is in another account ( my.. )");

Well I´m very newbie at all! Alex_Rolko installed the forum for me ( YaBB SE, I couldn´t and I can´t install YaBB SE "alone", I tried everything but nothing worked! )  I really think that phpnuke was easy to install ( at least with me! ) I didn´t received any errors, I also prefer phpnuke X postnuke, phpnuke rox!

Well, just that, sorry I´m really newbie, just trying to help!

[iamdamnsam]

What exactly is the benefit of integrating PHP Nuke or whatever with YaBB SE?  Can't you acheive virtually everything that PHP nuke can do with YaBB SE?

[David]

What exactly is the benefit of integrating PHP Nuke or whatever with YaBB SE?  Can't you acheive virtually everything that PHP nuke can do with YaBB SE?

This is where there are differences in opinion.  I do not want YaBBSE to try and become a CMS.  It is a great forum and I fear it will be spread to thin if so many CMS features are added.  Making it a module for a CMS is a good thing becuase then it is still being worked on as a forum without worrying about everything else a CMS does.  Also there are plenty of CMSs already.

[andrea]

What exactly is the benefit of integrating PHP Nuke or whatever with YaBB SE?  Can't you acheive virtually everything that PHP nuke can do with YaBB SE?

Not really. PHP nuke does not contain a discussion board. You can feedback to published articles, but this is not the same as a board.

[iamdamnsam]

so php nuke is basically an announcement board?  If so, YaBB already does that.

[Microcyb]

I gave up on the portals, and have been trying to write one of my own.

persoanlly I think YaBB should have its very own portal.  It would be the perfect addition to an awsome board.

YaPS - Yet another Portal System!!!

I started my own to have a drop down menuig system to contain more information at the base of the site, since I have so much stuff I did'nt want to have to have to click on a hundred spots just to get what I wanted.

YaBB I keep hearing is going to try a portal, but I have'nt seen anything yet.

If no YaBB portal, than dammit I will make one!! lol

o.k. I still suck at php, but I will get it one day.  I'm learning.

Looking at postnuke though, I can see you can include YaBB into it, with just a weee bit code changing around, but I think its just too messy for me.

I try for the K.I.S.S. factor.

[Razgo]

This is where there are differences in opinion.  I do not want YaBBSE to try and become a CMS.

I tend to think the opposite there. I have always felt professional forums Like YaBBSE needs to go that one step more and build a cms system to go with it.
And if YaBBSE decides to be adventurious and go the extra mile I say good on them for showing innovation and vision. I doubt this will effect the YaBBSE forum in a negetive way but rather in a positive way.

However I also agree YaBBSE would be an excellent choice to be moded into existing cms systems. so hey why not do both?

sure there are other cms systems out there, and I say the more the better. lots of options and choice is a good thing.

did someone say they were thinking of trying to make yaBBSE into a mod for the Xoops system?

[David]

did someone say they were thinking of trying to make yaBBSE into a mod for the Xoops system?

Once 1.3 is released I am going to take a whack at this.  Module doc from XOOPS is also suppossed to be released soon so a combination of the two will help.

[Microcyb]

Well I do like all the portals i have seen. Some are a nightmare to install, while others are easy as pie.

I personally think that to really make YaBB SE rock the web world, it needs to go to the next level.

Is there any php coders out there that would like to tackle a new level of coding and make a new portal?

Or has evenone gotten lazy?

YaBB SE has already gotten some cool mods made for it, why not really show YaBB SE how much it rocks, and help make a portal for it?

Hell I will throw you a brand new YEPP portable mp3 to player, to those that can handle that challenge!

So I might not be a PHP god, but dammit I will not be a lazy web fool, and just leech off of others.  I have been trying to learn all that I can, and hope one day I can repay the guys who made YaBB with some cool stuff.

A brand new web portal would be just the ticket!

So are all of you just chickens, and only want a mod to use in other cheap CMS or are ya brave enough to take on the challenge of making a new, and better than ever portal to work with YaBB hand in hand!

  CHICKENS!!.. I thought so...

[iamdamnsam]

I am still not clear on what benefits a CMS has over YaBB?

[Shoeb Omar]

sam - the only way for you to really find out is by installign a cms and using it

[Razgo]

I am still not clear on what benefits a CMS has over YaBB?

I don't think either has more benifit over one or the other but rather the two systems work together to to bring out a powerfull way to run a community web site they way you like it.

Once 1.3 is released I am going to take a whack at this.  Module doc from XOOPS is also suppossed to be released soon so a combination of the two will help.

yes that sounds like a good move to wait for the next release on both. I hope the documents are easy to follow too.